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11.25.2010
Tha O Show: Episode 195
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Frank is such a fucking follower. He is worked by the Mizfits that Miz is actually good and then Donnie puts him in his place and he folds like a cheap suit.
Way to go Frank.
Kevin Nash is a cool mothafu...
SHUT YO MOUTH
Well I'm talkin bout Nash!
NASH!!!
The opening segment was awesome. I think Donnie's point of moral hitting a low in the lockerroom is probably dead on.
Just the fact that as I type this I see a story on your site that "WWE worried about ratings bomb next week without Cena" tells me they made the WRONG choice.
How can Frank say this proves Miz is a draw?
NASH RULES! NWO 4 LIFE!!!!
Donnie, did you apply the rules of MatheFUCKINGmatics to those numbers they texted you?
You know, MatheFUCKINGmatics, where you take the number of guys a girl says she's been with and multiply it by 3, take a guys number of girls and divide it by 3 to get the real numbers they've been with?
Just curious if 'Bros' are really honest about those numbers when talking with other 'Bros' or would MatheFUCKINGmatics need to be applied there too?
Hmm...
Donnie mad as hell, you could say this episode was.....awesome.
The fight between Donnie and Frank was epic. Rico weighed in, but why did we never really hear Dan's opinion on this huge story?
DONNIE: I am joining you with your Raw protest. Who's with us O-sters??
Donnie & Jim J
+1
+2
+3! DONE THE PARTY ON RAW!
Are you saying Punk legitimately hated Serena? What the hell? Where'd you hear this?
+4 on protest
Including Donnie & Jim J the O-ster count on this thread is now at 6.
Make me +7.
Someone let me know when Miz loses the belt.
Ricos Montanas iz NOT the jives soul bros. I AM the jives soul bros!
+8
+9
+10
+11
ok i gave up a while ago but I'm a 64 yrs old and I love a good protest.
Great show guys!
I love Kevin Nash. Rico is always awesome. Frank is truly the voice of the young marks who don't really get it. Dan I think has lost his spot as "voice of the fans"... he is now voice of the "disgruntled" and Donnie is the voice of anger.
+11
ok i gave up a while ago but I'm a 64 yrs old and I love a good protest.
Great show guys!
I love Kevin Nash. Rico is always awesome. Frank is truly the voice of the young marks who don't really get it. Dan I think has lost his spot as "voice of the fans"... he is now voice of the "disgruntled" and Donnie is the voice of anger.
Wow - story on O Show news about WWE wants Outsiders for Mania! Did you guys ask Nash about that?
My fav part of the Os and Nos was when Donnie destroyed Frank with the Zig Zag. Great debate!!
I don't watch Raw either, cuz I can't even handle how much of a fucking goof I am.
+12 protest
How do you compare big fat gross homo Adrian Adonis to Dashing Cody?
I want to say, i AM a Miz fan but when BDD broke down ALL the issues with his win, I have to admit I was blown away.
The WWE needs people like BDD with passion and attention to things that matter like believability.
Kevin Nash was the PERFECT champion. in 1994, Bob Backlund was a heat seeker and NOT believable at all to the audience with his stupid chickenwing. That 7 second win by Diesel made him an icon and he's had a hall of fame career ever since.
I want to see Miz with the belt, but i agree, the timing is wrong.
+12!!
+12 on protest!
Funny that you mention Backlund because I was thinking Miz's title reign will be less memorable than Backlunds second run with it.
But Donnie is right. They've always been careful about who got that strap.
Wade Barrett would have been a much more believable choice because of his size, REAL toughness (bare knuckles fighter), having worked alongside top names for 6 months and his long term growth potential.
Miz is a mid card guy. That's it.
Jive Soul Bro!!
RICO FOR WWE CHAMP!!
Rico Montana and Kevin Nash sound like such a sweet couple.
Do you think Rico would tell Nash he loves him and then bang his brother behind his back?
Wow comments filling fast today!!
A few 12s came out so I think i'm like +15.
I'm tapping out on Raw too.
And if you're wondering demographics, I am 17 and I am the guy they want to watch cuz I am there prime audience and me and my FEW friends who watch wrestling all hate this and we don't want to watch anymore.
I'm joining the Raw protest.
What a great episode! I would have liked to have heard more from Nash about accusations of holding guys down in WCW and refusing to do jobs in TNA. Maybe next time.
I call bullshit on Dan fucking 5 times more black girls than Rico.
I'd choose Rico.
What's wrong with showering with other dudes?
Awesome comments so far everybody!!!
Keep it up!
Nash's comments about back in the day it was Patterson and Vince booking months in advance and being organized is what REALLY led the WWF past WCW. Organization and quality - not the shock tv.
People felt like everything they watched was leading somewhere.
So much so that when an angle was launched that never went anywhere (GTV) it stood out like a sore thumb and still gets talked about a decade later.
These days there are so many non-starters that the on-air product feels like a disorganized mess.
Also - about 4-5 min of Nash interview was killed due to shitty phone line. We apologize for that. We will share with you what he had to say next week.
Another awesome show and I'm joining the protest brigade.
Nobody else had a problem with Nash's comment "let me put my mind vs his mind and let me see if i can bury him"
Entertaining show as always, but I won't be joining in on tapping out on RAW. The past 2 weeks were some of the best they've done and I'm interested in seeing where they go with KoTR, the Cena storyline(did I just type that?) and what they're going to do with Miz.
The fact that Daniel Bryan is IN the KOTR tourney tells me they are fucking it up.
He will not win it and he will get jobbed unfairly again. Fuck it.
I won't stop watching raw but i WILL turn off the tv when Miz is on. He's not getting my support.
Nash is so smart. He can talk for 20 minutes and make you think he's answering a question without really answering it.
Very politically minded. Genius.
I don't like american football plus please someone win it other than Dan-e-o.
We learned in the world cup he's not a graceful winner.
Fuck Miz.
Protest time.
Frank...shut up.
I've been a WWE stock holder since 2002 and I have to tell you, I'm disgusted with the company's current direction.
Osters everywhere were DYING to hear Donnie's rant this week and he delivered.
I think Osters were also wanting to hear Frank gloat and retort.
Frank had 4 days to prepare for Donnie and couldn't do it.
What the hell??
Nash is amazing and I loved everything he had to say. There's a guy who doesn't NEED wrestling anymore and is still so valuable.
I live just outside Tokyo. Where can I get the Dear Hip Hop cd?
Great shows guys
I just finished this week's show and i was thinking damn that was short!!! Then I checked the time code on the file and it said 2:24! Holy shit! I swear It felt like an hour!
This was the first episode I've listened to. I will be checking out ALL of your Old shOws though because I love what I hear
I met Nash once at a bar in Tampa and I tried so hard to fulfill a fantasy and he flirted but left me hanging.
I will join the protest because as a worker of 15 years I have no respect for the Miz as the WWE champion. I think the majority of the fans in the crowd could kick his ass, and yes Frank having time in the business DOES matter if you arent overflowing with that it factor like Don mentioned.
Holy shit that's a lot of comments in one day
Protest up.
Frank you brought a butter knife to a nuclear bomb fight.
It took longer than your Prophet thought but Shad Gaspard finally got cut from the W-W-Evil. Bet you niggas thought I was joking when I said FCW stood for Firing Coons Weekly. Everybody wonderin if all the fools that got 86’d are gonna head to TNA. Is you crazy? They still got three brothers there. They ain’t doing shit with them but they there. Pope getting beat. Lethal getting beat. Orlando Jordon gay. If you a brother in that company you just cant win.
TNA - Three Niggas Assaulted.
Mr. Jennifer Hudson David Otunga can breathe a sigh of relief since the NXT is still together. I bet all them fools that got released wished it was fake like that shit with Cena. For those of you that don’t know Otunga was on that show with that bitch New York who got famous for trying to fuck Flava Flav who is the greasiest nigga to ever live. That BP oil spill called Flava Flav dark. Otunga married Hudson, got into FCW, and now he’s just waiting to be laid off. I give this brother two months before he gone. Funny how they get rid of two brothers and hire two devils.
NXT - Niggas Existing Temporarily.
Surprised it wasn't said on the show this week but R.I.P. Solid
The Black man’s kryptonite is no longer a White bitch with full lips and a big ass. It’s that motherfucker Dolph Ziggler. I don’t know why but ain’t no nigga in the WWE can beat this cracker. In the span of less than two months he beat Kofi, MVP, K-Kwik, JTG, Mark Henry, and Kaval. Kaval half a nigga and he couldn’t escape this shit. Ezekiel Jackson better watch his back.
Quinton Jackson beat Machida and seemed surprised. So was I. I still ain’t forgive this goofy nigga for trying to run from cops with his face painted on the side of his car.
It’s Thanksgiving and I’m trying to figure out what I’m thankful for. Not much. In the past year my brothers and sisters have lost they dominance in almost every sport. Obama ain’t doing shit to make things better and still wasting time letting big white turkeys survive for another few months. Oprah going off the air. Ain’t no niggas on Mad Men. I mean fuck. But when the world looks bleak and your Prophet is feeling down there’s one thing that can always cheer me up. I’m not Frank Fronte.
This has been your Black Prophet. Your Prophet of rage.
Firs time listener here and I love this show! Wow! And what a communnity of supporters. This is awesome!
Another Great Episode!, Big Daddy Donnie went in on frank Lmao but your right man you they are 20 more guys in the back that are way more deserving for that spot!
You're right about Solid lucha fan! I spoke to Rico after the show and said we should have mentioned him. There are still so many questions circling about his death though.
And I also neglected to mention R.I.P. to Pat Burns.
Burns was an amazing coach with an amazing story.
I had it in my head to mention him, but the show kind of went in a different direction.
Condolences to the families of Chris "Solid" Long and to Pat Burns.
One other death: Gran Naniwa. Died at the age of 33 I believe. Still had a long career ahead of him.
What's the most comments one episode has ever had?
To answer anonymous above i remember episode 100 had over 100 comments.
HAPPY THANKSGIVING AMERICAN OSTERS!!!!
Raptors win again!! Donnie, what did you think of Peja's debut? 7 points in 6 minutes?
Also Triano is saying today that Peja will back up Bargnani at center????
WTF?
Raptors win again!! Donnie, what did you think of Peja's debut? 7 points in 6 minutes?
Also Triano is saying today that Peja will back up Bargnani at center????
WTF?
wow, a lot of you actually care about whether a supposedly "undeserving reality star" is the champion of a professional wrestling company.
the argument i am mainly hearing opposing Miz as champion is mainly cosmetic, as if his lack of a steroided up body is a reason to deny him an opportunity to carry the company and represent WWE as no one else before him has.
So you the fans are crying foul at the thought of a skinny world champ? The same fans who cry foul at the numerous steroid related deaths in wrestling?
And even if he had the "look" that you all seem to desire, where were you when 5'9" 215Lbs Chris Jericho was the Unified Champion? To me, there are millions of similarities between these competitors; from their obnoxious promo style to the fact that people cried they were too small to be world champs.
And years in the business is an issue? Mike Mizanin began training under Rick Bassman in UPW in his home state of California, 2 full years before he was on Tough Enough and AFTER he was on The Real World.
Enjoy playing XBox on Monday folks, I will gladly watch RAW and wish best of luck to their new WWE champion.
Fuck off Frank. Life OUTSIDE the WWE means NOTHING. Every other guy has had to pay their dues and PROVE themself IN the WWE. Training under Rick Bassman doesn't give you that rub.
And it's not JUST the size. As Donnie and Rico said, it's SIZE plus a complete lack of believability.
His promos sound like you wrote them (RIP FRANK FRONTE SCHOOL OF ACTING) and his ring work isn't main event calibre.
If you're small you better be great. Simple.
Donnie loves basketball analogies. Nate Robinson is a damn midget but he can slam like mad. He can score on anybody in the league. He's small. He deserves to be in the NBA. But that doesn't mean he deserves to be the league MVP.
Miz deserves a spot on the shows, but as the top dog? He hasn't earned it. Not even close. And all that does is call into focus all of the things that really suck about him.
Maddening,
You can order the "Dear Hip Hop" CD here:
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Big up Japan! Can't wait to get out there...
Paulo Souza,
You have no idea how glad I am that I got Portugese haters. Thanks for being my biggest one.
Deshawn,
Donnie summed up everything for me, as you could hear. And truthfully - in case y'all haven't noticed - I gave up on WWE a long time ago.
Miz winning the title doesn't shock me that much. It's in keeping with their retarded angles and far-fetched, childish storylines. At the end of the day, I honestly don't give that much of a fuck about it.
Tracy T,
You know you wanna be added to my list!
I tapped out on the WWE about a year ago. I was never down with TNA. Let's have some comments on some more deserving wrestling federations, like DGUSA, Chikara, Evolve, RoH, JAPW, AAA, Lucha Libre USA, and all the cool feds that you guys know.
I'm guessing the Miz won't ever be a guest on this show cause it would be the ripping of the century. I say they work an angle and give Michael Cole the belt next. The Miz as champ = Mizery....... Had to throw that in there.
Nash seemed so laid back. In the business, the man has seen it all, and he's still smart enough to know what each product needs. Great show.
This was an amazing episode. I loved it. Rico Montana should be on the show ever week
Was Nash high? He sounds too laid back and chill
He chills more than Chris Bosh under the opponents basket
I know Donnie is a huge basketball lover and Nash was an NCAA baller - so here's the question. If you put together an all wrestling bball team who would you draft?
Wow, that's a cool question.
Ok ... I'll start with Kevin Nash as my starting center and The Undetaker as my staarting 4.
My small forward would be Eandy Orton and my 2 guard would be Jay Lethal.
My starting pg would be Tyson Kidd
1. Tyson Kidd
2. Jay Lethal
3. Randy Orton
4. Undertaker
5. Nash
Bench
Matt Morgan, Big Show, MVP, Shelton Benjaminm, AJ Sytyles
What can I say that hasn't been said? This was an awesome episode with a great guest.
One thing I will say is Tid doesn't get enough love from the commenters. He's on every week and is always entertaining and usually he's right with his predictions and analysis.
Good job Tid
Frank, eat a bag of cock.
+ Infinity.
I bet Rico Montana VS Kevin Nash would probably be very, very good. Especially if Nash likes Rico and would be willing to make him look good.
listen to him backtrack now that he's not drunk and spouting off at the mouth... clearly everyone showed him just how wrong he can be... and he realizes this... hence the backing off of his idiotic statement...
someone is still jealous that they are not in the WWE... which he sent feelers for... the WWE doesnt want seriously old hasbeens... thats why he is in tna... and he still thinks he rules the ring huh?... read those comments again... he still thinks he is a huge badass... just like tna itself... both need a serious reality check...
Nash isn't backtracking at all. He is being very honest in what he thinks of Miz and he also said he says shit on Twitter just to rile people up.
So do 90% of workers / celebs online.
Nash isn't trying to go back to WWE. He is very happy with his life.
I love how people talk so big but if they ever met an actual wrestler they would kiss his ass.
First time listener and I will also be protesting RAW
First off, great episode. Donnie's rants are always great. 2nd off, I really think it was too early to put the championship on miz. yeah he's never had a 5-star match. and its just pure shock valve. This reminds me of that one time years ago when the great khali won the whc in that battle royal on smackdown. he wasn't in the wwe for that long and he already gets a championship? wtf lol but i gotta say though, i wanna see what happens now. i know a bunch of people are gonna stop watching raw. but i would like to see if the miz turns out to be nothing but a transitional champ. Btw toronto is awesome!
Dont you think youre taking it too seriously Donnie? I mean it is just tv.
BDD did the best rant ever! i literally laughed my black ass off.
There's a big difference between Jericho and Miz, Frank.
Jericho has been to Mexico, Japan, Europe, all over the place PERFECTING his craft. He's had to work the indies and be put into situations where he truly paid his dues. Working for next to no money in the indies, sleeping in his car, just scrapping up enough money to live.
In the grand scheme of things, what dues did Miz pay? He worked in pretty much one indy fed (UPW) and then went to Tough Enough, did the developmental thing and then went onto TV.
Miz then put heat on himself and then made up for it. Good for him? Yes. But that's not worth getting a WWE Title. That's like rewarding a kid a car for passing a test. It's retarded.
I'm not saying this because I want to come off like a tough person, but I'm pretty sure I could take on Miz in a shoot fight, the guy is small and he doesn't look very talented in the ring.
Daniel Bryan at least can back it up in the ring. Miz has never had a match where I was amazed by his skills.
What makes no sense is that WWE wanted to create a big heel, well think of how much fans would pay to boo Miz had he failed the cash in on RAW? He'd get booed and people would look forward to doing so.
You can criticize ROH and Indy guys for being small, but at least they can back it up in the ring, unlike Miz.
It's funny how all the anti-Miz arguments end up contradicting each other and nobody notices because everybody's too busy furiously sucking Donnie's cock. Donnie could come out next week and say that the Holocaust was the greatest thing ever and the Jews deserved it and it'd get 50 comments all saying "Heil Big Daddy!" So life outside of WWE doesn't matter, but what Jericho did outside of WWE does count? And Miz is a terrible worker in a company that frequently gets complaints about handcuffing workers and telling them exactly how to wrestle? Also, WWE has never jobbed the WWE Championship, even though Mr. McMahon once had a run with it? Donnie's arguments against Miz have frequently been biased and assumptive. He says "Really?" because he's stalling? Really? Can we prove this, or are you just assuming so? Did Austin say "What?" because he was stalling? Miz is a solid heel, I have no problem with him holding the title. If the wrestling god JBL likes Miz, then I do too.
First off I'd like to say that I wish I could just the name I will post this by would say everything I needed it to but it just won't
Secondly...
Frank you fucking retard! You think The Miz is all that? Well you are a bigger retard than "The Retarded Policeman" on Youtube! Even comparing your intelligence level to that of a person with retardation is an insult to retards everywhere. Do you know why you are a retard Frank? Not because you actually like The Miz, but because you think he is worthy of any main-event status!
(Too long so the next few posts are the rest)
When the Miz made Bret Hart and John Cena beg for him to be on the Team WWE team I was looking forward to seeing him be jobbed! He was 'built up on TV', ya right! He was sucking on Shane McMahon's nutsack to get over on TV. That is why he wore the 'C' (Which stood for cocksucker). Stephanie was taken by Hunter so to get over The Miz married Shane McMahon. Is it gay or is it okay for The Miz to be in any main-event picture? One word...
FUCKING GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Miz has nothing that can make it even slightly believable for him to even hold the World Heavyweight title on Smackdown! The Miz is no threat and is the man-which has yet to be proven- who had absolutely no friends in...well any school environment, he was the person who made teachers tell him off.
This isn't me being pissed off about The Miz character, no this is me despising the person behind the character. I hate John Cena with a burning passion but I respect his ability in the ring and the fact that he can make 12 year old boys bust nut in their pants! I respect John Cena the person but the character I hate. The Miz is just a douche on and off camera. If I saw him on te street I would legit beat his face in and face the charges of the Canadian Justice System.
The WWE (Undisputed) Championship had yet to be just thrown away into non-importance. Look at the greats who held it: Harley Race, Sting, Vader, Yokozuna, Hulk Hogan, The Rock, Triple H, Steve Austin, The Million Dollar Man, Randy Orton, Chris Benoit! That title was never thrown to a guy who wasn't ready, never thrown to a guy that didn't look like a legit threat. Even if the threat was not the champ but the stable he is in, there was still that threat.
That title has just lost all the prestige that Ric Flair, Bob Backland, Iron Shiek, and Bruno Sammartino gave the title. I hope to good that ANY writer from the fed is reading this because I want them to know that the WWE Title is now as worthless as the Tag Team Titles. Way to -fucking- go WWE! This is the bullshit way to make the WWE Day of Reckoning 2 career mode storyline become reality!
For those who don't know the DOR2 storyline is that you're on Raw and the World Heavyweight title is stolen, the Intercontinental becomes the most important title on Raw.
Now moving on to Donnie. Fuck you for not remix the Road Rage theme for you to have 'Fed Rage'. Listening to it, that is what you had. Fucking Fed Rage. Now to actually prove you wrong, The Miz has been involved in some awesome matches. The problem is that he wasn't the -pardon the pun- Aweeeeeeeesoommmmmmeeee part of the match. It was John Morrison, CM Punk, the Carlito Caribbean Cool and his brother Prim-O. On top of that, he has had some believable promos except..."I don't get bitter I get better"-Dan-E-O, "I'm Awesome"-CHRIS FUCKING HERO! All the microphone skills that he has is all shit that he stole from OTHER PEOPLE!!! There have been some good Miz promos the problem is they weren't really his promos. So one of The Miz's best promos came from Dan-E-O, most came from Chris Hero. The fed needs to start putting up a 'works cited' page on the TitanTron when the Miz starts talking. Fuck, have the guest host fucking Elmo from Sesame Street. "This Miz promo is brought to you by the Rap 'singer' Dan-E-O, and the wrestler Chris Hero."
The Miz has absolutely nothing main event about him. Ya, he swiched to tights. Ya, the tights squishes his balls creating the chicken faced, bug eyed look he gives everybody. I hope to god that he retreats back to Micheal Cole's ass where he was birthed.
Let's face facts, everyone knows Cole's gay. He did gay porn under the name 'Cum Miner'. When he did it he didn't realize he could get pregent with the piece of shit we call the Miz. Guess he should have allowed that guy to Miz in Cole's ass.
I'm flattered that Nevin Kash thinks I'm over enough to brainwash the entire Nation of O.
LOL
Awesome post!!! I enjoyed it.
Ok Fatty. I don't care about the Miz winning. I care that the Wrestling product as a whole just got sour. To be at the peak of the buisness, and to show your ass by having somebody who can't have a half decent match, is pathetic. The Miz isn't a Heat-magnet, you disrespect everybody that ever was by calling him that. He is a black hole that sucks everything that is positive about the sport. He reminds what Kenny would have been if he was a champion. Hell, he is the bastard child of the Spirit Squad.
And I would have liked him as a champion of the largest company in the world, if he could only have had a match going into his title steal....and it is a steal, don't think Piper's words from 2 weeks ago how Barrett would have looked like a joke if he had help to win the title has been lost.
And if we are going to call match quality, Dibase, Ziggler, and The Miz all faced Danielson in the last 3 months. Of those 3, the Miz was the one that had the worst match of all of them. The others had matches that could have been called the ppv match of the night. The Miz can't be carried to anything that would be called "Awesome"
Just Saying you are doesn't make you so.
this has to be a record of comments lol
In my humble opinion, there are 4 things that make a world champion.
1) Work - You need to be able to have a DECENT match with ANYONE on the roster in order to be considered a World Champ contender. Is the Miz the worst worker to win the Fed's strap? No. I can name 4 guys off the dome that are worse (Warrior couldn't work, Vinnie Mac wasn't the greatest either, I may get flack for this buy Hogan couldn't hit a powerslam to save his life and Psycho Sid Justice isn't a skilled technician either) but they made up for it one or two other areas...
2) Promo Ability - BDD said it a billion times every true WRESTLING fan can cut a promo. Is The Miz the worst of the worst in cutting a promo for World Champ's? The answer again is No. Yoko had Mr. Fuji talk for him, but Fuji was starting his decline, so there was no real great promo work from one of the greatest big men to EVER hit the ring. Also, Backlund wasn't getting movie contracts on his promo skills, neither was Bruno or Jeff Hardy (WHC I know, but you get the picture). Again, they more than make up for it in other areas.
3) Crowd Meter - This is a sliding scale. It incorporates many different things from being able to read the crowd, react to the crowd and be "believeable" in their eyes. Randy's first run as WHC didn't have that (all 30 days or so) nor did Rey Jr. (sure the fan's loved him, but he never played the underdog despite how many times TIFG and CIFG tried to ram it down our throats). Kane never played to the crowd but he was believable....sort of. THis is where Mizanin fails every category. As a heel you don't come up with catchphrases, you don't crack lame jokes and you certainly showboat as to how smart you are after getting away with something....see Eddie Guerrero, Mr. Perfect, Ric Flair etc.
Last and certainly not least, Character. Is The Miz the worst character to win the strap? Maybe. Read this aloud.
Coming down the aisle, weighing 145 pounds soaking wet holding a brick, The WWE Champion THE MIZ!!!!
THE MIZ???? Fuck, Mike Mizanin sounds better than The Miz. What is a Miz anyway?
The Undertaker.......The Big Show......The Giant.....The Ultimate Warrior......The Miz? Sticks out liek a sore thumb.
As if his name isn't bad enough, who is he supposed to be? Chicken Shit heel? Cool Heel the marks are supposed to secretly cheer for? The Rulebreaker? The Faker of Injuries? The Cheater? I don't know.
So while Mizanin may not be the worst in each individual category, as a sum of all its parts, he is the worst choice as champ. Yes Warrior couldn't wrestle or cut a coherrent promo to save his life, but he looked like a champ and played the crowd. Hogan's 5 moves of doom were not technically sound, but he can cut a promo and work the crowd better than anyone. Then you have the rare packs that can do it all, HBK (as a face AND a heel) Flair, Hunter, Angle, Bret and Taker.
Will Miz go down in history as the worst WWE Champ? Maybe.
One last thing, Fuck You Frank Fronte!
In my humble opinion, there are 4 things that make a world champion.
1) Work - You need to be able to have a DECENT match with ANYONE on the roster in order to be considered a World Champ contender. Is the Miz the worst worker to win the Fed's strap? No. I can name 4 guys off the dome that are worse (Warrior couldn't work, Vinnie Mac wasn't the greatest either, I may get flack for this buy Hogan couldn't hit a powerslam to save his life and Psycho Sid Justice isn't a skilled technician either) but they made up for it one or two other areas...
2) Promo Ability - BDD said it a billion times every true WRESTLING fan can cut a promo. Is The Miz the worst of the worst in cutting a promo for World Champ's? The answer again is No. Yoko had Mr. Fuji talk for him, but Fuji was starting his decline, so there was no real great promo work from one of the greatest big men to EVER hit the ring. Also, Backlund wasn't getting movie contracts on his promo skills, neither was Bruno or Jeff Hardy (WHC I know, but you get the picture). Again, they more than make up for it in other areas.
3) Crowd Meter - This is a sliding scale. It incorporates many different things from being able to read the crowd, react to the crowd and be "believeable" in their eyes. Randy's first run as WHC didn't have that (all 30 days or so) nor did Rey Jr. (sure the fan's loved him, but he never played the underdog despite how many times TIFG and CIFG tried to ram it down our throats). Kane never played to the crowd but he was believable....sort of. THis is where Mizanin fails every category. As a heel you don't come up with catchphrases, you don't crack lame jokes and you certainly showboat as to how smart you are after getting away with something....see Eddie Guerrero, Mr. Perfect, Ric Flair etc.
Last and certainly not least, Character. Is The Miz the worst character to win the strap? Maybe. Read this aloud.
Coming down the aisle, weighing 145 pounds soaking wet holding a brick, The WWE Champion THE MIZ!!!!
THE MIZ???? Fuck, Mike Mizanin sounds better than The Miz. What is a Miz anyway?
The Undertaker.......The Big Show......The Giant.....The Ultimate Warrior......The Miz? Sticks out liek a sore thumb.
As if his name isn't bad enough, who is he supposed to be? Chicken Shit heel? Cool Heel the marks are supposed to secretly cheer for? The Rulebreaker? The Faker of Injuries? The Cheater? I don't know.
So while Mizanin may not be the worst in each individual category, as a sum of all its parts, he is the worst choice as champ. Yes Warrior couldn't wrestle or cut a coherrent promo to save his life, but he looked like a champ and played the crowd. Hogan's 5 moves of doom were not technically sound, but he can cut a promo and work the crowd better than anyone. Then you have the rare packs that can do it all, HBK (as a face AND a heel) Flair, Hunter, Angle, Bret and Taker.
Will Miz go down in history as the worst WWE Champ? Maybe.
One last thing, Fuck You Frank Fronte!
Why do ppl write awesome 600 word comments as anonymous?
Big Daddy Donnie is wrong. Miz is great. The WWE is never wrong.
Why do some posts get multiple postings?
Great show. Jive Soul Bro Rico had me dying. TID never gets the props he deserves but I always think he does a great job and the very few times he wasnt on it was noticeable. He's a good dude. Cant wait to see what the fall out from this weeks show will be.
F the previous poster with Blade Braxton's penis.
Oops, make that F the previous poster (Katie Vick) with Blade Braxton's penis.
^^^^^^ Why would ANYONE want Blade Braxton's penis? That dude is such a try hard. I used to listen to him and realized he was such a poser.
Tonight i'm watchin monday night football.
I just noticed Tid and Donnie are now in the lead for NFL pool. DON'T CHOKE. YOU KNOW Dan will be all OVER you if he wins this shit.
Terrible new, El hijo de Cien Caras was murdered.
It would be cool if you guys would mention him, he was a funny entertainer and was L.A Parks brother.
So, Miz lacking the physicality, ability to use ring psych, and promos is all subjective. Objectively speaking, his size is a flaw.
And fatty, you are not helping. What makes the miz work is the era, the machine, and irony. That's right, irony. All these naysayers against him have one simple thing in common; they are of an old school cut. We know your shit is a work and we laugh when it is cleverly done. And clever, now THAT is a subjective term.
I assume you people shudder with annoyance at the use of 'superstar' vs 'wrestler', yeh that's the way vince works now. It's flawed, but it IS what brought him to the dance.
Not mind blowing matches, not emotional promos, but the refined process of using tools of performance to get into the crowds heads. Miz is a prototype. As was Cena. Vince wonders if he can create a star. So far, the 'universe' proves him right,
Sidenote; fuck wwe for hating on darkness. R-Truth vs Seamus was parody of a sad truth.
Is it really working? RAW ratings haven't been doing anything close to what they did years ago.
The problem is the product isn't simple like it used to be. Miz is a heel that doesn't sell what people say to him. Well in any entertaining shows, the bad guy shows humility in defeat. Miz doesn't. People don't understand him and I don't think the writers know who he's supposed to be.
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